2011-05-06 [Alexi Ice]: But...but...if you judge you can't enter and if you don't enter I can't stalk your stuff O.o

2011-05-06 [kamisch]: I just wouldn't be able to enter the official contests, right? There's always still the DP and all the unofficial contest :) Besides...they're all full for now, so it's just for future reference. You can continue driving back and forth past my house ;)

2011-05-06 [Alexi Ice]: Don't worry, I still stalk you plenty. hahaha!

2011-05-06 [kamisch]: *feels loved*

2011-05-06 [Lord Josmar]: As far as I know you can enter any contest you want, as long as you say your entering it.

2011-05-06 [Akayume]: Yup! And as long as you enter less than half (I believe that's what it was) you're good to go. (: The point of this isn't to have these judges never enter a competition ever again, but to be around to judge most of them. :P And we have a really nice number right now, so I'm sure if someone wanted to enter a contest they could. :D

2011-05-06 [kians mummy]: you know, i just thought, i have proof that i am getting singled out, i were the second person to ask to become a judge on here, but the crew chose to refuse me, but add other members instead, thats a bit crappy of you to do so

2011-05-06 [Chimes]: The other members didn't ask to be a judge. They were asked, and they were asked before you asked, they just replied after.

2011-05-06 [Akayume]: I believe that either [iippo] or [windowframe] had messaged people back before this page was even up, to see if they were interested. It took a while for some people to reply, and I believe they were added as they responded. (: So the people who were added didn't "ask" to join, but had been asked in advance! (:

I'm sure [iippo] or [windowframe] could address this concern more thoroughly than I, however. You could always send either one a message. (:

2011-05-06 [Akayume]: (Dang it Chimes! I was typing at the same time as you! :P)

2011-05-06 [kians mummy]: just.......never mind, i'm getting used to the crew singling me out, it just shows they are the low lifes really

2011-05-06 [hanhepi]: How were you "singled out"? [kamisch] asked to be a judge and was told "no" just like you were. sort of.

2011-05-06 [kians mummy]: exactly, sort of, its not just now, its all other times as well.

2011-05-06 [Lord Josmar]: You ever think that maybe it is that exact attitude that makes you single yourself out, and not the crew? Almost every official wiki that you have commented on results in you having a spat with someone over something that you feel was a slight against you.

2011-05-06 [kians mummy]: what, you mean honesty

2011-05-06 [Lord Josmar]: I think more hardheadedness and over determination. That last one may be a bit weird so let me explain. You really want to be crew, and I understand that because I do too, but you are trying way too hard, and may be considered annoying. I'm not saying to stop trying or to stop contributing, far from it, keep participating in Elftown, but tone it down a bit and earn everyones appreciation and you will be asked to join stuff and help out.

2011-05-06 [Lord Josmar]: Sorry, on phone and its hard to type with sometimes.

2011-05-06 [kians mummy]: ok, i will take your advice, you will be good on crew, you talk well

2011-05-06 [Lord Josmar]: Lolz. Thank you, I try.

2011-05-06 [kians mummy]: and you do well

2011-05-06 [windowframe]: Sammie I explained to you when you first commented on this page that we'd had a group of people in mind who we were talking to first, and that if we didn't get enough people from that, then we would open it up to applications. All the people who are currently listed on this wiki are from that initial group we were talking to, no one has been added yet through applying.

I'm hoping 14 people will be enough, given that not every judge will be helping judge every contest. If the group gets too big then it will actually be harder to reach a consensus about a winner. But since we've not done this before, we're playing it by ear. If, after a few contests, we find that the group is way too big/way too small, then we'll have to make adjustments. :)